Why is sugar based on three contact types (Target/Lead/Contact)?

This causes me several headaches:

a) We usually want to have an "Organisation Centric" view of data rather than person centric

b) When promoting (converting) through the levels it can result in people at multiple levels which complicates campaigns as it is tricky to avoid duplicates

c) Also when promoting custom fields need to be "handled" for level. Makes extra work for marketeers who are not developers/coders

Maybe I'm missing something?

Thanks

Dale

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  • The classic sales process behind these three types of persons is as follows:

    1) Targets are persons you normally buy from an address seller, or collect in your company from old excel files. Normally you do not know these persons (any more) and the first step is to get in contact and check whether there is any chance to  have a deal with them. After unsuccessful contact you normally delete or mark them as dead in your system.

    If such a target shows interest you convert it to a Lead.

    2) A Lead is a person who met you on an exibition or a faire or who filled out a web2lead form on your homepage e.g.

    These persons are interested in some information from your company but you did not have any deal with them until now.

    You know already some details about their company and their special needs.

    So communicate with them and in the best case they ask you for an offer. That it the point when you convert them to a Contact, an Account and an Opportunity.

    3) Contacts are persons working in a company (Account). You know each other and you have or had some deals with them.

    Some companies have all 3 kinds of persons in their environment, others only the Contacs/Accounts, in Sugar each company can decide which of these modules are used and shown on the screen...

    Harald Kuske
    Principal Solution Architect – Professional Services, EMEA
    hkuske@sugarcrm.com
    SugarCRM Deutschland GmbH

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  • The classic sales process behind these three types of persons is as follows:

    1) Targets are persons you normally buy from an address seller, or collect in your company from old excel files. Normally you do not know these persons (any more) and the first step is to get in contact and check whether there is any chance to  have a deal with them. After unsuccessful contact you normally delete or mark them as dead in your system.

    If such a target shows interest you convert it to a Lead.

    2) A Lead is a person who met you on an exibition or a faire or who filled out a web2lead form on your homepage e.g.

    These persons are interested in some information from your company but you did not have any deal with them until now.

    You know already some details about their company and their special needs.

    So communicate with them and in the best case they ask you for an offer. That it the point when you convert them to a Contact, an Account and an Opportunity.

    3) Contacts are persons working in a company (Account). You know each other and you have or had some deals with them.

    Some companies have all 3 kinds of persons in their environment, others only the Contacs/Accounts, in Sugar each company can decide which of these modules are used and shown on the screen...

    Harald Kuske
    Principal Solution Architect – Professional Services, EMEA
    hkuske@sugarcrm.com
    SugarCRM Deutschland GmbH

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